MENTAL HEALTH

ABC’s Matt Gutman on panic attacks as a war correspondent

Sep 13, 2023, 12:00 PM | Updated: 3:33 pm

YouTube video

SALT LAKE CITY — Experts believe that 50% of all Americans will experience a panic attack at some time in their lives. Half of us. And one of them is someone you’ve heard on KSL NewsRadio for a while — ABC’s Matt Gutman suffers from panic attacks. 

My radio partner Tim Hughes and I had a chance to interview Gutman this morning. He has just completed a book entitled “No Time to Panic, How I Curbed My Anxiety and Conquered a Lifetime of Panic Attacks“.

We started talking regularly with Gutman on KSL NewsRadio about 18 years ago.

“I think I first started talking to you when I was in Gaza covering conflict there,” Gutman said. “Then in Iraq and Afghanistan. I was a war correspondent for my first seven or eight years. I still do disasters and go back to cover the war in Ukraine.”

We asked Gutman how in the world a person can be a war correspondent while suffering from panic attacks.

“I call it the paradox of the courageous coward,” he said. “I’m comfortable with a certain kind of danger, physical danger. I’m less comfortable with the social kind.”

What caused Matt Gutman’s panic attacks?

Gutman described his panic attacks as being connected to a fear that he wouldn’t be perfect.

“For many years, I suffered panic attacks live on air,” he said. “Typically, it would happen when I had to do short live intros, and it had to be perfect. That fear of perfection caused my brain to melt down.”

Hughes shared with Gutman that he has a 40-year-old daughter who is going through this.

“She is actually in treatment right now,” Hughes said. “I stumbled across an article in Time yesterday about your book, and I sent it to my daughter. Your findings and your journey through this are going to help a lot of people understand that you aren’t going to die from your panic attack. You might feel like it.”

“Panic is normal,” Gutman explained. “It’s also massively common, but people like me didn’t know. I went to therapy for 20 years because of some trauma in my childhood. I should have known what anxiety and panic is, but I didn’t.”

It’s in our bodies

The symptoms of a panic attack almost perfectly imitate a heart attack — rapid breathing, sweating, heart pounding, tunnel vision, trembling.

“Even practiced 911 operators cannot tell the difference,” Gutman said.

Millions of Americans check themselves into hospitals every year because they think they’re dying of a heart attack. Nearly 40% of those people are actually having a panic attack.

“It’s not in our heads,” Gutman said. “It’s in our bodies.”

How he overcame his attacks

Gutman told us that he tried every hallucinogen, everything pharmacology had to offer, to get relief from his panic attacks.

“The first and best medicine is sharing,” he said. “It was a dark secret that I couldn’t tell anybody until after my last panic attack on air in December of 2020. I was flying home and I started yammering to this wonderful woman next to me. I realized then that sharing is really good medicine.”

He also recommended cutting your caffeine intake for people with anxiety.

“Cutting your alochol,” Gutman added. “The stuff we know to do for ourselves. Being kind to our bodies.”

If you are suffering from panic attacks, Gutman’s message for you is: “You’re not alone. It’s totally normal. You’re going to be okay. A panic attack only lasts for 15 to 60 seconds. That is the period during which your brain is assessing the threat. After that, it’s just anxiety.”

For those of you who do not suffer or have not had a panic attack, Gutman asks for understanding.

“We are your friends, family members, your colleagues. There are more of us than you think.”

We want to hear from you.

Have a story idea or tip? Send it to the KSL NewsRadio team here.

Mental Health

The Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah is working on a new plan to address m...

Michelle Lee

Addressing mental and behavioral health challenges in Utah

Utah has a growing need for mental health professionals and services. What are some of the challenges the state is facing?

19 hours ago

Sen. Lincoln Fillmore, R-South Jordan, talks about legislation he is proposing for the 2025 General...

Emma Keddington

LISTEN: Legislators propose bill tackling cellphone use in schools

Sen. Lincoln Fillmore joined KSL at Night to describe the bill, which would give school districts more power to restrict cell phoneuse.

3 days ago

Kristy and Misti, two victims of dating violence, are photographed together in West Jordan....

Ashley Fredde, KSL.COM and Alex Cabrero, KSL TV

As the school year begins, parents are urged to speak to teens about dating violence

As the school year begins, West Valley Police are urging parents to talk to their teenagers about dating violence.

9 days ago

Intermountain Children's Health says emotional and mental distress often worsens as children enter ...

Eric Cabrera

Intermountain Children’s Health advises on back-to-school emotional wellness

Intermountain Children's Health says emotional and mental distress often worsens as children enter back-to-school season.

15 days ago

The Kids Online Safety Act is expected to be voted on next week. Social media apps are pictured on ...

Eric Cabrera

Utah doctor helps parents navigate social media challenges

One Utah doctor explains the social media struggles impacting Utah's youth.

16 days ago

Blake Lively poses for photographers upon arrival at the UK Gala Screening for the film 'It 'Ends W...

Curt Gresseth, Diana Jones

Movie “It Ends With Us” shines harsh light on domestic violence

A therapist shares her experience about domestic violence from the point of view of both victim and abuser.

17 days ago

Sponsored Articles

Water park with a vintage VW bug in front with a surfboard on top...

Cowabunga Bay

Spend the last days of summer at Cowabunga Bay! 

Cowabunga Bay is one of Utah's premier water parks that features water slides, a lazy river, a kids' cove, and a beach with lounge chairs.

A young woman smiles while reading the menu at a lakeside restaurant, enjoying the panoramic view o...

Bear Lake Convention & Visitors Bureau

The best restaurants to try in Bear Lake

Save this guide to the best restaurants in Bear Lake when you need to find a place to dine during your next visit.

Female leg stepping on weigh scales. Healthy lifestyle, food and sport concept....

Health Utah

Sustainable weight loss: the science-backed way to achieve it

Learn more about Debbie's weight loss journey with Health Utah, who have a unique weight loss philosophy for success.

Underwater shot of the fisherman holding the fish...

Bear Lake Convention and Visitors Bureau

Your Bear Lake fishing guide

Bear Lake offers year-round fishing opportunities. By preparing ahead of time, you might go home with a big catch!

A group of people cut a purple ribbon...

Comcast

Comcast announces major fiber network expansion in Utah

Comcast's commitment to delivering extensive coverage signifies a monumental leap toward a digitally empowered future for Utahns.

a doctor putting her hand on the chest of her patient...

Intermountain Health

Intermountain nurse-midwives launch new gynecology access clinic

An access clinic launched by Intermountain nurse-midwives provides women with comprehensive gynecology care.

ABC’s Matt Gutman on panic attacks as a war correspondent